Hmmm… I have to say I COMPLETELY disagree with the author. I think your throw away review is far more “safe” and “predictable” than you have accused Superjiminez of being.

I think this is a bloody great record – it’s fresh and honest.

But that is the beauty of music. It’s so objective…

Only one question (I havent actually heard the record)… This seems to be a 2/5. I’d love to see what you’d write about an album that got 1/5!

is there something wrong with having an irish sound?
i betcha you only like bands that sound british or american because your super cool.

Lisa….did Ronan Cunningham ride you and not call you back??? Ouch!!

Finally some writing which is honest. I haven’t heard the record, and nor do I want to, but why should the author just said that it’s a good record if it isn’t? The last thing we need is more rubbish indie pop a lá the Delorentos and co. I’m glad to see that a probably deservingly scathing review has gotten past the State editors. Just cause they’re Irish doesn’t mean we are obliged to like them. And Ash, the exact words aren’t the main problem, its just the general sentiment. “Nice and happy and bright” sounds like a terribly boring album.

The words aren’t really my point either but if you’re “professional” enough to write a review then you should know your stuff inside out. I’m not too sure how happy and bright sounds boring…. shall I go lock myself in a dark room and put on some depressing music and ponder my life? What’s the point? I accept what you’re saying but like you said, you haven’t heard the Album so I don’t really know why you commented in the first place!

Agree with Dave – there’s a distinct ‘bang’ of Superjimenez Street Team hanging around this page.

That said, I have always liked the Superjimenez and think on the basis of their Faye single alone, deserve more credit than they’ve got here…

Dan, the band are nothing like the Delorentos. And leave Delorentos out of this. Sore point.

Lol.

That is all.

Niall Byrne said:

“Probably eating a deep-fried creme egg.”

deep fried up my ass

Far too many inverted comments being posted.

Seen these guys live but haven’t heard the record. They are awful, bland drivel. They can’t even succesfully try to be pop sell outs because they’re not even catchy. Lads, there’s an economic crisis on, I hope you’ve kept your day jobs.

Mel,
Calm down! I’m not in a band nor do I understand the work that is involved in creating an album but I can only imagine it’s bloody hard work. I think fair dues to Superjimenez for following through and completing their record.

I think people like you Mel are just such a stereotype in Ireland; not believing that Irish people can make it – always putting people down. Let them at it, if you think they are crap, fair enough, but be civil. These are guys who just want to do what they love doing. They like it, their fans like it and it’s OK if you don’t like it. But don’t berate them and tell them they should be ‘put down’. There is room for everyone in the Irish music scene. Nobody is ‘clouding’ it. Why should we all conform to a set amount of bands?

I really think you are the ‘eejit’ on this forum…. Take a chill! It’s OK that you don’t like them…but a little bit of respect?

Just one last point; what’s wrong with bands that play at Whelan’s every week? People go to see them…you included on occasion I’m sure.

This is insane! Who the hell are Superjimenez????

Superjimenez Street Team (if the accusations levelled are correct) – I’m disappointed that you would waste so much energy bemoaning this review. It’s one persons opinion. On state.ie – who cares?

Fair enough, the review is ferocious but that’s music – “One man’s meat” and all that….

It’s obvious to me that Tom, Mel and Dan are only looking to take a sneaky swipe at the band – i don’t know, maybe they are in bands too? In ireland, that’s what band’s do to eachother. It’s quite sad really.

But apart from that, I can only commend Superjiminez for releasing an album independently and creating so much discussion on a relatively unknown internet site.

Album cover is quite saucy too, who’s the fledgling pornstar?

Great review. What a refreshing change to see some honest music journalism.To the person who said this album has been gettin 4/5 elsewhere, God that speaks volumes on the state of Irish music journalism doesn’t it.I seem to be in the minority in having actually heard this album and would agree with everything said about it in the State review.I understand it is a first effort but being a music critic is about sharing your opinion, not massaging musicians ego’s. And I am a musician stating this, not a wannabe journo. Also, I think the comment “distinctly Irish” has been taken out of context, let’s face it we all know boring Irish indie bands and although they may be lovely lads who enjoy making music, surely this is not the criteria for objectively reviewing an album now? If that was the case every piss poor Irish band out there would be getting rave reviews

As a (very amateur, but reasonably experienced) music writer, there is sometimes a pressure to ‘play nice’ with the homegrown bands, though never from State, and it’s never something I’d even consider pandering to.

I once wrote a review of a South Korean metal band which focused largely on the fact that they couldn’t string together a sentence in English, yet insisted on singing in English as it’s fashionable over there. I thought it was very relevant, as it completely ruined the album. It was the record labels condition of passing the magazine CDs after that that I never wrote another review on that label’s albums. Which is an absolute joke. Nothing wrong with a good bit of honesty. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what you write, someone’s going to disagree, so the main aim has to be to get the feeling of the album across in print. Does this do that? No idea to be honest, but I’d certainly like to hear it now!

THEY JUMPED OUT INTO THE CROWD?????????

OH MY GOD!

THE BASSIST DANCED???????

OH MY GOD!

THE SINGER SPAT HIGH INTO THE AIR??????

OH MY GOD!

Come on, get real. Where’s the harm in that?

Least it sounds like there’s something goin on with their live shows which is more than can be said for a lot of bands playing these days…

lol again!

I don’t believe that Irish acts should be afforded special treatment just because they’re one of our own. If they want to be taken seriously, they have to be praised/criticised on the same terms as the acts they appear alongside in the review section.
To do otherwise would be to screw up the rating system and short-change the readers who buy the band’s album/show up to their gigs expecting something else, costing the publication credibility in the process.
[I say this without making any comment on the band or review in question.]

I often look on State for reviews to see what’s out, what’s new and worth buying.
Trouble is I’ve often been stung (Ting Tings and FLApes comes to mind – think the reviewer just got too caught up in the hype surrounding both bands, branding them amazing). I thought they were both a load of twat.

Another that comes to mind is Empire Of the Sun – quality album that was dismissed by the reviewer here a few months back.

I do agree that Irish bands shouldn’t be afforded special treatment etc etc… but i think they should certainly be encouraged a bit better.
I mean, this reviewer has hung Super boys out to dry imo –
I think I’ve heard them on Phantom (could be wrong!)and i don’t remember it being too bad. I don’t remember scouring itunes to buy their tunes at the same time.

But give them a break…they seem to be giving it a go

I would think the large scale interest in this review is based on the authors pure disdain towards a band who, in my opinion don’t deserve such an attack! It seems more of a personal hatred to me. Healthy debate here but c’mon, does anyone think this will end in all these people seeing eye to eye? I think not. Lets not give this review the attention it deserves…. Like Derek said, it’s not as if this magazine (and therefore it’s writers) are a major deal anyway!

fair play lads!! i like ya dont mind this lisa one. everyone to their own opinions. listen before you make your mind up

Telling bands that they’re great is never going to help them. Musicians rarely feed their egos off reviews, but they can, ideally, take the criticism on board and decide for themselves if it’s valid. The worst case scenario is that they dismiss it and continue what they’re doing. The idea that local bands should be treated with kid glove smacks of the same sort of twisted logic as Brian Lenihan telling me to do my “patriotic duty” and shop at Superquinn.

Slate.ie?

“What a refreshing change to see some honest music journalism.To the person who said this album has been gettin 4/5 elsewhere, God that speaks volumes on the state of Irish music journalism doesn’t it.”

Totally agree with Colm here. In another publication there were 7 or 8 Irish albums getting the magical 4 out of 5 which does nothing but make you think that publication doesn’t want to rock the boat and pi$$ people off! Fair play to State for allowing this review to be published. I’m sure the easy option would have been to pass it onto a reviewer more in tune with the band! As for the comments…. lol @ slate.ie and the comment about getting rode and not getting the call back! Priceless!

[Like most people here I don't know the music of Superjimenez too well]

It’s a lousy and occasionally a deeply condescending piece of music journalism and lauding it for it’s honesty is the equivalent of lauding the news for not plucking stories out of thin air. If we start treating the bare minimum expected of music journalists as qualities to be celebrated then we are in dire critical straits.

Declaration of interest – I have never heard Superjiminez

Good comment Ash! I hate U2′s music just as probably half the world does but it hasn’t stopped them from being successful.

The Superjimenez argument is pointless!

Um, One quarter of the band is Ozzie mate. With influences that extend beyond Irish. You are clearly not a musician. I am, and the lyrical, musical content that they have in their songs is impressive. It’s the kind of music that you can listen multiple times and get something different from it each time.

Stop being a superficial immature pratt that has to be an arrogant cock to sound impressive. Get an education. Learn an instrument and see how hard it is to write a catchy pop song. Enjoy the music for what it is and stop over analysing. Nirvana had so many three chord songs that were so simple, but fuck it worked. The musos in Superjimenez have talent and can actually play their instruments. I’d rather listen to them than some top 40 bullshit, which is clearly what you’re looking for. Think you’ve chosen the wrong profession… oops!

maybe the reviwer was getting at the hype that has surrounded the band since they embarked on their musical career together… and the expection that was built up to hearing a potentially acclaimed record… but was greatly dissapointed to find out first hand that ita was all aload of muc (for want of a better word)… just a guess!!!

fair play.. job done… people are listening and talking about the record… i like the track rescue remedy, not a huge fan of the band or the album, team superjimenez should try not to take it so hard on the chin, hate to meet any of ya’s if your lolly was stolen..

Has the author of this review have anything to say.
I have read though all comments and have heard nothing from Lisa Hughes.

does she care to comment..

OUCH! But they are a pretty crap band!! Just because this site is Irish doesnt mean it has to give glowing reviews to every Irish act… Although States blatant promotion of Villagers Baffles me!!

I HATE THE F**ING EAGLES MAN

talking ‘hype’ on a small scale here leigh, mostly generated by ‘team jimenez’ one can assume…

It’s so inspiring to see a music blogger fighting for a music jounalist’s right to not write a review that doesnt read like a press release or the judge’s comments in the All-Ireland talent show. It’s a fight that it’s been long coming. It’s like the Montgomery bus boycott only for music journalists who have completely invented a conspiracy in order to make just doing their job a righteous cause. Amen sisters. I have a dream that one day the tyranny of the Superjiminez street team will be overcome by the true meaning of the creed “all albums are not created equal”. Let criticism ring from every blog and every bulletin board.

Who suggested that a music journalist has to be a piggy back to anything other than informing the reader? Why do so many writers have to trade in these fictional extremes? Can a poor piece of music journalism not just be a poor piece of music journalism? It’s pretty ironic that in defending the critic’s right to her opinion that a bunch of music bloggers have waded in trying to deflect any criticism of that writing and use a bunch of cliches to do so, a tendency towards cliches being one of the central criticisms of the Superjiminez record. You music writers need to develop thicker skin. Do you want us to blindly accept your opinions just because you’re Irish? Im so sick of this ‘support your troops’ bullshit.

Yeah, me neither.

I was responding to some of the comments which claimed that music journalism should be supportive, not trying to uphold some set of agreed blogger-journo ideals.

Which extremes are you talking about?

A big fat ‘Who Cares?’ to the whole grotesque charade that is this thread at this stage!

I got a loan of the Superjimenez album off a friend (who wrote a review of it for a national newspaper last month) on Wednesday night. His review was good (3/5), a lot better than the one posted here. So I decided to make up my own mind about it.
I’ve only given it about three full listens since Wednesday but Superjimenez, if you’re reading, you’ve definitely gained a new fan. I think in ‘Beau’, you’ve created an absolute peach of a tune. It’s so damn catchy. ‘Promises’ and ‘Rescue Remedy’ are equally as good and ‘Helicopters’, which I’d heard before, is excellent. A negative for me is Track 7 because it’s too sombre and the vocals get a little screechy. My favourites though are ‘Faye’ and ‘Somebody There’. The remainder don’t really float my boat either but are good songs.
Lyrically, it’s charasmatic, and sometimes clever. It’s no poetic genius but it’s certainly not embarassing.

3.5 to 4 out of five stars

regardless of what you think of lisa’s opinion, her journalism sucks ass. it reads like a sixteen year old having a rant on her bebo page. allow me to quote liberally..

“the fact that Superjimenez are a quite predictable indie rock outfit”

“a light, summery indie-pop number that relies on the guitar parts to carry it”

“‘Rescue Remedy’ continues the predictable indie rock vein”

“Despite Ronan Cunningham’s attempts to pull off emotive, indie balladry”

“Similarly, ‘My World’ is indie by numbers”

“Bang resembles a thousand other pub rock acts currently touring rural Ireland’s best venues”

“Superjimenez will appeal to a section of Irish music lovers, particularly those with a penchant for unchallenging indie with no surprises”

im all for honest opinions and all, but cmon.. dig out that thesaurus.. for someone who doesn’t seem to like indie you sure like saying it.. i dont know the boys superjiminez and im not a mate of theirs, ive heard a tune before on the radio and didnt like it, big deal.. theres ways and means of saying you dont dig something without assassinating the poor blighters.

this happens to be the first review ive ever actually read by a state journalist. i sought out the review after reading their interview in the features. and itll be the last time ill be on here.

and no i dont play in a band. and no ive no ambitions to be a journalist. i just have beef with that kind of peurile rubbish being passed off as valid criticism. dont give up the day job lisa.

Let us be havin’ it Frankie. This is gonna be good i’m guessing…

Haha, do what the man says and take it to his email.

Believe me, it’s a story you’re going to want to hear. If it’s true, I reckon state will have to give Lisa Hughes the sack!

Pathetic is an understatement.

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as i said, i dont care who believes me.

So far I have stayed out of this debate, thinking that my review & opinion on the album at hand spoke for itself and that everyone who has commented is entitled to their opinion after all.

However, after receiving Frankie’s interesting account of things I felt compelled to leave a comment to clarify things for him and anyone who has heard this schoolgirl gossip.

Frankie, you allude to a “southside secondary school” – as someone from Northern Ireland who hasn’t been in Dublin long, I can assure you and anyone who has emailled you that I have no ties to any southside school.

I also have no affiliation with any such person “Una” or any other radio/blog personality. I haven’t met the lads from Superjiminez nor would I recognise any of their girlfriends.

Regardless of anyone’s opinion of my review, I alone wrote it and stick by it.

Either you have been duped by this contact of yours “Una” or you are attempting to discredit me. If it is the latter, I would be more than happy to meet you for a coffee to have this out. I have just emailled you my contact details so let me know what it is to be.

Also, cheers to everyone who expressed interest in the review, whether positive or negative.

Yeah Dan, superb response my arse. Are you with Camp “Lisa Rocks” too?

Frankies account of what happened is quite simple. Una hates Superjimenez because she dislikes the girlfriend of one of the band members(Una went to school with this girlfriend). So Una and Lisa got together to write a review of ‘Bang’, above. Nasty little piece of work, one might say.

Lisa, the “Una” in question is Una Mulally aka UnaRocks. As you know, she’s an idiot. It’s very typical of the thing she’d do.

The southside school alluded to is Colaiste Iosagain and Una went to school there so that reference is not directed at you.

Just because you are from the North, does not mean that you don’t know her. That’s a silly, almost childish retort. We all know that the online bloggers have close ties.

I think it would be very big of you to own up, tell the truth and keep your integrity and morality as a music journalist in tact. Oh wait, sorry, that’s already in shreds.

So Lisa, the only one who has been duped here is you and your idiot friend Una. You, for getting in with the wrong people, and Una for blabbing her mouth off to people on a night out and expecting it to never come back and bite her on the arse.

For the sake of transparency by the way, my name is Brian Duggan. I like Irish music and I keenly follow a lot of bands in Dublin. This just annoys me. It’s pathetic. I don’t know the members of Superjimenez but I like their music a lot.

This review is a farce and should be taken down. There’s no smoke without fire and I think the account given by Frankie is very believable and very much in keeping with the Irish Music Scene.

Well, if rumours are to be believed, it seems Una is your friend Lisa so I think I can take a rough guess at what she might have to say!!

Haha, this is hilarious!!!!

I can safely say none of this needed to become public.

Hello, crazy people. Someone just sent me this link. What the fuck are you all talking about?????

I don’t know anyone in Superjimenez, or their girlfriends, pet hamsters, etc, to the best of my knowledge.

I’ve never met Lisa Hughes either.

Brian – have I ever met you, dude? You seem to know a lot about me for someone I don’t know.

I have no idea what’s going on here, but please continue to implicate me in your childish conspiracies because it’s quite entertaining if completely bemusing.

hmmmm.. the internet = crazy

Reading back on some of the comments there (sorry, I’m coming late to this, and it’s taking some time to trawl through the billion comments.) This is all ridiculous! I’ve got nothing to do with any of this petty shite. Have emailed that Frankie bloke to see what the hell he is talking about. I wonder if he will be as quick to reply to me as he is to spreading dumb rumours online.

Lisa Hughes’ review is well-written and seems perfectly fair. The band and their fans should get over themselves if they take a bad review this seriously. Not doing yourself any favours, kids.

Yes I met you a few times Una. Welcome to the party.

Do you deny meeting a guy in a pub last week and telling him that you co-wrote the review?

Be honest, like the review is… Least that way we can rule out the Lisa Hughes conspiracy and expose your untruth for what it is.

Niall, I don’t think this is retarded. It’s certainly not unfounded. And if it is true, is totally necessary. Someone has posted on your site and has, it seems to me, a genuine story to offer your readers and as editor(?), you should take it a bit more seriously than trusting your freelance hacks to write honest reviews.

Also, Brian, where/when did we ever meet? It confounds me that I would forget bumping into such a hilarious conspiracy theorist as yourself.

“Anyway, you didn’t answer my question. So….when you’re ready.”

Um, I did answer your question.

“Of course I didn’t co-write the review.

Who is this mysterious person that I met and said this too?”

Is that not clear enough?

To go all Kanye West on this:
I DIDN’T WRITE THE REVIEW.
I DIDN’T CO-WRITE THE REVIEW.
I DIDN’T MEET SOMEONE AND TELL THEM I WROTE THE REVIEW.
I DON’T EVER RECALL TALKING ABOUT SUPERJIMINEZ TO ANYONE.
I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

What part of that is hard to understand?

Hmmm, still don’t remember meeting you. Although if I bump into you again, I must bring a can of cop on for you for believing any of this conspiracy rubbish.

Ok, bored now. Going to actually do some work.

one final thing, i have been emailing Lisa and am satisfied that her defense is genuine and that her interview was written in good faith. I can only say that whoever this person was that i was speaking to last Thursday is living in some Walter Mitty type worls.

Say no to drugs, kids.

Okay Una, you deny co-writing the review.

But my question was, and i’ll put it a little simpler: Is it possible that you spoke with someone last week by the name of Frankie and told him a wee porkie?

Frankie, don’t be a wuss. Stick up for yourself man, what you did was commendable. You spoke when you felt you should. You were drunk but that’s when we say the honest things. Like Una was when she said I was adorable

Ah, it’s a shame. The entertainment value is completely gone out of this now.

Oh Frankie, I didn’t forward it to anybody. I know nobody here. I know Brian about as well as you do. You told a few people I assume and not just me.

Don’t try and pass this whole thing off as being my fault for everybody finding out. I wasn’t the one who wrote “I can explain my sources and the story in full but anyone wants to talk more take it to my email. Dont wake me up too early though. frankie******@gmail.com” on a public board. That was a bad move on your part, drunk or otherwise.

I NEVER said a good review of an Irish album is a bad one. Never. We should promote Irish music but not to the end that any band who are Irish immediately become untouchable. If an album is bad, it should be said so. And what line are you talking about cause I’d be more than happy to draw it for you.

I never said that if it’d been given a good review that it’d become a long lasting album. My point is that we should truly appreciate and support GOOD Irish artists, not every band who record an album in their room and release it. I don’t think Superjimenez and plenty of other Irish artists deserve the attention they receive. I don’t want so many of them to last past next week. For the record, that’s my opinion so you can’t really refute that.

They wanted to clear their names and not just let people here savage them mercilessly. That’s what any truly “innocent hack” would do.

Oh and Brian, a Superjimenez and RTE Concert Orchestra fan? There really is a first for everything.

Now I’m finished with this argument because it really has nothing to do with anything anymore, certainly not the article this is attached to. I do now feel a little bit sorry for Superjimenez. An almighty can of worms was opened on them without them doing anything or being able to control it at all. Still like the review, but most everything since then has been unrelated to it.

I must say, splendid show to all involved, this is fucking hilarious!

It’s staggering to me how people seem to think that this kind of review is unique to this author and this publication. Pick up most popular music magazines and you will find a similar approach from many different authors.

The author has the right to say whatever they wish about the album and it’s writers as long as it is not defamatory against the subject (which sadly, was not the same courtesy extended to the author in some comments). Lisa Hughes has just expressed something in print that we all joke about with our friends when we listen to an album we hate (think Chris Cornells’ most recent vile offering). This makes for entertaining reading as it’s not the stale usual crap you read in your local newspaper where in a very uninteresting way they tell you whether they like something or not.

To show my colours; I know one of the members of this band, i’ve seen them play a few times and i’ve heard their music. Although it is not for me personally, i believe there is a market for it, people will enjoy it and i respect wholeheartedly their commitment and dedication. It takes a lot of balls, money and heartbreak to do anything with a band in Ireland and reviews like this will not deter them. Although it dissapoints me to see their album being slated in any publication, you have to see it from both sides and not let your emotions get the better of you.

Lisa Hughes is one of those people who will not like Superjimenez and she’s told you that. There’s going to be thousands other like her and it’s very clear that the band recognises that and accept it from the interview. Anyone who gets into a band and produces their own music has to get used to reviews like this. It’s just another part of the business!

To all those people who are so devestated by this review, just think how you would receive a similar review if it was about a band you just can’t bear to listen to. You’d probably have a bit of a giggle..

Well said Nigel…

I don’t have much to say about the review as such, only I do like the band and it does come across as far too harsh for it to be honest. The only thing I’m surprised by in the review is that she didn’t go the full monty and rip into the tracks that weren’t mentioned as well.
Does that mean she likes those tracks? Because if it does, then surely it would have been plausible to comment on them too – like many of her peers would probably do.

Anyway my point, yes, I only got interested or involved in this debate when it was pointed out by a friend that there was an allegation made that two writers conspired to create a monster review just because they have some personal agenda. That drives me insane. I’ve written for several publications abroad and journalists really do respect their professions there.

I’ve always been very anti Irish press and journalism because it’s heaped with cronyism and when something like this is brought to my attention, I have to speak.

I’m given more of an impetus because I do like the jimenez and they certainly have potential that should be pushed to a wider audience, not slated, and certainly not slated for the wrong reasons.

But if the review is an honest piece of work, then I hold my hands up. If.

“I’d prefer if it all stayed up just so others could see what tools the people spouting crap are.”

You must really think you’re something special Una.
Please get over your extreme case of self-importance.

And please, don’t bring my mom into this…

Brian, this isn’t a case of self-importance. This is a case of you cooking up something idiotic. Admit it and give it a rest.

I seriously doubt you are a journalist of any integrity yourself if you run with something that has absolutely no factual basis – even when the author of the original information has already retracted his version of events as false and apologised for it – and try to stand it up against someone of good reputation’s personal and truthful firsthand account.

Stop digging, bro.

“Miss Rocks magically appearing like a dithering four-year-old telling her teacher that she didn’t draw on her classmates copy book.”

Nialler alerted me to the post because, as you know, I was being implicated in some timewasting and false conspiracy theory cooked up by a drunkard.

I’m perfectly entitled to defend myself, even if it is from people so moronic that they actually believe someone would waste their time constructing a integrity-threatening episode about a parochial indie band who, by all accounts in the review above, are shite anyway.

I’m looking forward to bumping into you again Brian so you can say all of this silly rubbish to my face, and I in turn can laugh in yours.

I am of course wasting my time arguing with you, because you are clearly thick and completely out of your depth, but if you continue to insult me, I will continue to serve your ass.

Go team rofl, etc.

eh… its still some pretty shit music. bored the arse off me tbh

hilarious stuff.

As said above, SJ dont give a damn about the review so i think its time we all moved on and got on with searching for the current most obscure, undiscovered band to fawn over so-we-can-trump-our-friends-until-they-get-too-popular-and-then-we-hate-them (thats what us Irish do best, right?) before we slate an Irish band, cheer on an English soccer team and generally go about some self-loathing. Sounds like a typical Wednesday evening to me…….

/anyhoo, have rejoined this thread a bit late and can only imagine what this Frankie character had to say. Seems to have created quite the stir and provoked some fantastic comments from Brian (#131 simply brilliant) and Una (#127) and some measured response from Nigel.

Una, you have to admit though from reading some previous reviews you have a major loathing for the band and have crafted some overly harsh reviews of their live gigs (which many of the unimpressed on here have said is one of their few strong points) in the past which do bear similarities with Lisa’s review of the band. I am part of the SJ Street Team (Vice President i think) so i do try and keep up with what people are saying about them. Though they are generally well received, you do have a dislike for them and your protestations and declared ignorance here seem to be at conflict with your previous musings…. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

anyway folks, carry on! This is SUPERB!

Stop lying Una, please.

You’re looking a little bit stupid on this blog if I’m to be honest.

Una – somewhere on the (atrociously quiet) cluas.com message board if i remember correctly. I dont have time to go trawling…

Also i agree that we probably wont come to any form of agreement on the band so best for me to nip this in the bud and let you and Brian go at it.

By the way, i think you should have slept with Brian. Calling him adorable and then not closing the deal seems to have really gotten to him. haha

@Una DFTT

i presume you meant sexy comment, not sexist.

jaysis, lighten up FFS – the Brian comment was just intended as a light hearted remark to finish up my post, so was my follow up and now youve gone all super-feminist/poor-lil-me on me. I cant handle it!!!

Im not trying to make them happen, they are. All i did was point out some contradictions in your posts on them.

@Una Don’t Feed The Trolls.

First off I have never heard Superjimenez, but reading this review would not put me off listening to them. This is just one persons opinion and it is HER opinion no one elses! Everyone is entitled to their opinion and thats the bottom line. As for the pure gossip mongering on the comments THATS what I found ridic about this page. Not the review, but the blatent “he said this and she doesnt like her..blah fucking blah”. Its like being back in school. Having read the interview, the band dont seem to be bothered about it so why all the hassle?

I feel that there is very little left to be said. Una, you can serve my ass all day long. You get offended far too easily darlin’

Poor girl.

Una….It’s me…Ashton.

You’ve just been Punk’d

[End Credits]

I’m outta here…

Thank f**k for that.

@Stu – everyone’s a winner!

Seriously. Its people like you Brian,that need to get a grip,and not the author of this review. Having read it over at least three times i can not see any kind of personal attack on the band just a reviewer commenting on the cd she listened to that she didnt like. Nothing personal. But you however have taken this way below the belt. And for that you should be ashamed.

Holy shit this comment section is now one level short of a pandemic. It’s going to mutate and eat the internet.

So, has everybody finished their little rant now? My god, this whole thing has gotten completely out of control! Just after reading about 100 comments there (it’s been a while since my last visit to the “scathing” review) so I’m too tired to fight but just thought i’d say the following:

Frankie, if you didn’t want this whole thing to blow up, you never should have mentioned it…. nobody else’s fault but your own. However, at least have the balls to back up your story and don’t flake out.

Dan, you’re fooling nobody – it’s quite obvious you’re a friend of Lisa’s and there’s nothing wrong with sticking up for your friend so why deny it?!?

FYI, I’m Aisling and I am Ronans (lead singers) sister and I just want to say that I think EVERYONE on this thread needs to move on, it’s outrageous that you’ve all spent so much time dwelling on something that doesn’t even effect you.

From someone who knows the band, they have completely taken it in their stride and moved on. They made their reply through their interview and they’re happy with that!

Back to the issue though…. Lisa, thought you were way too harsh BUT just like everybody else, that’s MY opinion! There are 2 teams here by the way: “Team Lisa” and “Team Jimenez” so just pick one and let that be the end of it!

Obviously, I’ll be going with Team Jimenez!!! Not because I’m bias but because I genuinely LOVE their music! And why bother depending on a music critics taste when you can make up your own mind…

PS: I honestly am not trying to cause a fight here with you, Una but I (obviously) know my bro’s girlfriend and I do know for a fact that you were in school with her (she told me) so I really have to say that you should stop lying about knowing them!

Dunno if the rest of that story was made up or not but a good bit of Frankie’s story rang true for me!! If he has, like you said, retracted it then fine but I would really love to know why some randomer (I certainly don’t know him) would just make a whole story like that!!

PPS: Calm yourself Brian!!! Haha, you’re a crazy bastard!! Again, I don’t know you but I presume you know the band so looking forward to meeting your *crazy ass* at the next gig!!

not necessarily wanting to add to this, but why do they have/need a street team?

to AstonishingSodApe and Leigh O’Gorman…

im pretty shocked that i have to post this remark. My references to a “street team” are a totally tongue-in-cheek reference to earlier comments on the thread about the “SuperJimenez street team” being out in force. I amnt even sure if street team is an actual term – i thought it just referred to hardcore fans. I am a defender of these guys as i am close to them all and like their music a lot. Because of my admiration for these guys i appointed myself VP of their (totally imaginary just so we’re clear) “street team”. I dont even live in Ireland so i would be a pretty bad street teamer. It was a joke. A joke that i am surprised i have had to explain.

Sorry for the confusion but i can assure you categorically there is no SJ street team, just some fans. The only other person i know here is Ash (my sister). To avoid both of you having to tax your brains and figure it out, that would make me Ronan’s brother.

Cheers, Stu.

Just reading back over this thread. A few things I would like to clarify…

Una @Post 130. Frankie did not retract his version of events as false and apologise for it. Please point out where he did.
@113 + 114, he apologises for it going public, that’s all.

I think Niall taking down Frankies original comments is also bad form – irrespective of what his wishes were. Public interest and all that(of which there is plenty).

Nico @Post 150, you (and many others, I’m guessing) posting here have not had the opportunity to read either a) Frankies original post or b) the follow up email detailing exactly what was said to Frankie by “Una”. Or both.
Maybe I should post it actually. Would it be removed, Niall?

So Nico, I am not ashamed. I’m arguing for what seems like an incredibly genuine and believable email. I’ve already given my reasons for arguing.

@Ash, will try and make a gig over the summer. I’ll be the one wearing the UnaRocks T-shirt

Ok Brian,yes you are right I did not see Frankies original post and to be honest I wouldnt be half arsed in seein it anyways.
In my opinion someone has a personal feeling about someone else and has decided to make shit up. But thats my opinion.
At the end of the day, all this boils down to is a band got a bad review. its not the bleedin end of the world.
Although im pretty sure these comments nearly caused the end of the internet itself as we know it.
Ha.ha.

Una, I only commented on what I heard so I don’t feel the need to apologise for it or “take it back”! Either way, good to know you got in contact with the band to clear a few of those things up!

One final thing…. This entire mess is all down to Frankie, so everybody’s anger should be directed at him and at him, alone! Watch your back though Una, he clearly has some major problem with you!!

Anyway, that’s all I have to say on the matter and I won’t be commenting again!

Take it easy…. especially you Brian!:D Hah.

Ais.

so. many. morons.

Lisa, go out and get laid, you sound angry and bitter, what a tragic assh0le!!

I’m pretty sure they finished up